August 27, 2010
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{Biblical Womanhood?}
“The question of “sex-equality” is, like all questions affecting human relationships, delicate and complicated. It cannot be settled by loud slogans or hard-and-fast assertions like “a woman is as good as a man”–or “woman’s place is the home”–or “women ought not to take men’s jobs.” The minute one makes such assertions, one finds one has to qualify them….
The lives of individual female Christ-followers will never look exactly alike, so we must never reduce the message and definition of biblical womanhood to that of a role. Nor should we allow others to define this message as such, for being a woman made in the image of God and rescued from corrosive, indwelling sin by the atonement of Jesus is the preeminent definition of biblical womanhood….”
Read the full article here:: Are Women Human?
Honestly, questioning a woman’s biblical role has never really crossed my mind {until recently}. Even as a stay at home mom who homeschools her kids, you would think it would. But I’ve never defined those things as, “this is what I feel the Bible teaches.” Which I know many in that category do/ or believe that.
About not working outside the home – When asked why, my answer is, “I don’t really want to.” Which is not a cop out for having to give some huge explanation. None is needed. Because that’s the answer, plain and simple. Sometimes I think I’m weird that it typically never crosses my mind to want to be working somewhere {else}.
Now, there have been times I’ve wanted/ would like the extra money. But when I think of being able to buy a new pair of shoes in exchange for flexibility and freedom, nope. not really worth it to me. I’m just independent enough that way that I don’t like answering to others demands and expectations! {just ask my husband}
About homeschooling my kids – anyone who knows me well knows that has not been something I’ve ever done a happy dance over… savoring the smell of freshly sharpened pencils and new workbooks. Criticize if you want, that’s fine. But it’s been, and is, a struggle for me. Actually one of the strongest points of disagreement in our marriage. I came to the place a few years ago of releasing it the Lord. Being able to put my big girl pants on about it and realize that just because homeschooling isn’t my thing – my kids certainly are, and I can do this for them. And strive to do it well. In retrospect, compared to many other things, it’s not overly hard. {remind me I said that tomorrow at about 11:00 am}
Course that’s not to say this time next year my kids won’t be in public school and I’ll be working at Macy’s! We don’t make decisions in concrete~ we’re not old, but old enough to know that there have been many things in our 14 years of marriage that God has changed our hearts on. Shown us we were dead wrong. And redirected our path. So, more than likely, our lives might look very different than they do now in 5 years. In some ways I think that’s how it’s supposed to be.. what it means to be conformed to His image. to walk in the Spirit – simply listening, following, changing according to His leading.
So huge rabbit trail there to say that even in the areas of my life where others looking in might conclude I’m doing them based upon what I would say the Biblical role of a woman is, no.. it’s not that at all. I don’t think God made us from cookie cutters. And glad of it. It’s about individuality. And I really mean, individual. Even apart from your husband. And since I’m sure that raises some eyebrows, though I think you know what I’m saying… you alone before God are responsible/ accountable for your actions, attitudes, responses. Of course couples should follow/obey God together, but I know for some they don’t have that option. For those of us who do, we should. But it makes it much easier to follow Him together if we’re first following Him individually!
But even as individuals. And especially women there seems to be those who want to map out and define for us what our role SHOULD look like….
Lately, I seem to be hearing it from so many directions – in my sunday school class. among friends. in blogs {like here}. in comments and private messages {hearing from some who’ve been raised in certain circles that have even produced in them a false sense of shame for being women, embracing femininity, etc.} have heard it on the radio too, catching occasionally, ‘Revive our Hearts,’ where Nancy Leigh DeMoss is talking about “The Counter- Cultural Woman.”
And I’m so not saying what I’m hearing from some of these sources isn’t right. Not at all. Just that it’s obviously an issue many women struggle with, face, and are seeking God’s light to guide them into truth. REAL truth. I think we do need to be careful with what we determine is truth. Even when someone points to a chapter and verse and says, “here…” We still need to be wise and attentive to the voice of God within us, and not blindly follow. I told Shayne that it seems anymore Christians can make the Bible say pretty much whatever they want it to. Which is scary how naive others {myself included at times} are to quickly jump on board just because someone has said, “thus sayeth the Lord…” When perhaps that’s not at all what thus sayeth the Lord truly meanteth!
So, in case you forgot after all my words in between…
go back up and click the link and read the article.
Would love to hear some of your own experiences and further thoughts in this whole area.
Hope everyone has a great weekend~
the boys are off to watch a high school football game,
and the girls and I are going to the dollar theater to watch a chick flick!
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(¸.·´ (¸.·´ (¸.·¨¯`♥ amber
Comments (33)
You working at Macy’s might entail a lot of shopping.
<3 Love your post, dear.
@chix0rgirl -
yeah, i know.. which is why working at a department store always seems to come up first as my “dream job!”
Thanks for this post! I believe that there’s no real cookie cutter pattern for roles in the Bible. For authority, yes, but actual specific duties, not really. Every single person, couple, marriage and life circumstance is different. We all must do whatever it is that God has given us to do, whether we think the grass is greener on the other side, or less green on the other side. I can work outside the home and be 100% submissive to my spouse. He can stay home and be in charge. It is actually possible for him to cook a meal and wash a load of clothes without losing his status as spiritual leader! haha! (and I’ve known some stay at home non working moms who were very manipulative and not very submissive!)
I sort of look at submissiveness as about attitude and intent than about tasks. Those things are actually much harder to change(one’s attitude and the way you think).
I look at “roles” as tasks. Things that must be done. Who does them? Whoever is there to do them and can. Isn’t that how you keep a tight ship? When something needs done we don’t point at someone else because we don’t want to do it or because “it’s not my job” but we just step up and do it.
Oh and I really loved that article!
I read that blog. Very well written. Love your posts. I have yet to really open up and pour my heart out on Xanga. There’s so much that goes through my mind and heart but I have yet to put it into words.
i don’t have any assertations…for the simple reason that i have not figured out what i even think for myself yet, let alone anyone else. but i really, really, really like what you wrote redirection, changes, and knowing Him better, with greater fullness!
Good article. It’s no fun to feel put on the spot to “defend” why you do, what you do, the way you do it, when we are for the most part, as individuals and couples, doing the best we can, at the time, in the circumstance we are in and it hurts and I would say more detrimental then not, when your womanhood, motherhood, wifehood, love for your family and your God, is put into question because it doesn’t, in someone else’s view, line up or conform to what they have decided it should.
Enjoy your movie! I rented one for the evening and am about to curl up and call it a night!
Oh Wow!!! I agree with your thoughts so much here, which is to say….. *whispers* ~ I really don’t know either.
All I know is that when it comes to issues like this. I’m more and more on the side of “it’s none of your business” Christianity.
In other words, if it’s not explicitly addressed in scripture and not overtly sin, let the wife and the husband work it out between themselves.
Homeschooling is just one of those issues. We were right there with you and Shayne. Jeff doesn’t put his foot down too often with me. But when he does. ~IT REVERBERATES.
Homeschooling was one of those issues. There were MANY days that I just went on a LONNNG walk during my “lunch break”…. I mean, I ran AWAY from the frustration of trying to teach school that morning.
I was FAILING BIG TIME!!! I’m STILL failing BIG TIME! At least I think I am when I begin to analyze other H.S.ing families. I always aggrandize their accomplishments….. I start to think: “Wow!! Their kids play every sport, and EVERY instrument, AND know Latin/Greek and have already memorized the entire New Testament before they’ve even started 1st Grade. ~ Gee Whiz, I wish I weren’t such a loser!!!”
The truth is, most of me really admires and is encouraged by those Moms (I DO love them)….. and part of me is like, “How can I be better” or even, “Will I ever be better then I am now??”
I really can’t tell you that I’ve solved this whole dilemma. ~ I don’t think i ever will. But the truth is that I’m Thanking The Lord for these past few days. I’m in that perfect spot. The middle of the spectrum where I can see the older half: and those kids aren’t dead; apostate or terminally stupid.
And the second half, They are, in all honesty, NOT where they need to be academically…. BUT here’s my hope. They’re farther along then the older half was at this point. And they love us; we love them and we ALL love The Lord. The days we spend together are a delight…. and we get stuuuuff done. pffft!
All that to say, That’s my life; not everyone else’s. Life is not like a giant Colorform® game where you just plaster someone else’s “God approved” plastic stickies over the board of your life.
” Just place the pretty polka dot dress over the “card board you”, dear …… and you’ll be happy”
Yeah, I think I’m into: solid marriage; Holy Spirit and “none of your business Christianity”. In the simplest of terms, of course!!
hmmmm…thinkin’…ponderin’…gonna go read the link and come back…
a happy weekend to you!
Lots of wisdom here. Those pregnancy hormones are doing awesome things to your brain and writing skills!!!! You expressed yourself really well, Amber!!!!!!!!!!!! xoxoxoxo
I can’t read the link right now, but will be back to check it out. Enjoyed your post though. We have to go to a market in the morning, and I should be sleeping already! I need to be up at 3am, and it’s 10:30! Hope all is well, and I’ll be back to comment later! =)
I’m familiar with the book by Sayers, and though her issues were varied from ours today it was still a issue nonetheless. What determines godliness in individuals, or women as you’re speaking of here has been a question that has been around for centuries. Dare I say even dating back to the garden of Eden, with Adam and Eve? God instilled choice in humans, and for that reason we are and forever will be plagued by either following our flesh, or His spirit. If the conflict within ourselves is not enough there are those who would aid us in determining what only we can know in our hearts, His will for us as individuals.
And I do not believe that His will is, nor can be, the same for everyone. As you mentioned home schooling, and not working outside your home.. For some to do those would be sin. Because as it states in Romans 14, every one must be persuaded in his own mind why he makes the choices he does. If our decisions are based in anything other than faith, it is before God a sin. I do believe that is an accurate interpretation and not merely my own assumption.
I came by way of recommendation. This has been thought provoking, thank you for letting others add their input.
Good thoughts to chew on. Wait. I think I need more coffee!
I am really glad I do not have to be like everyone else in a cookie cutter kind of way. I tried that, and I just couldn’t do it! It is so freeing to be yourself, and flourish in the ways God means for you to flourish. I just wish it had not taken me so many years to stop comparing myself to others, and just appreciate ME!
Your little daughter’s video is precious, a treasure for sure.
It has taken years for me to come to the conclusion that I can take my “mask” off for Jesus and He alone. Very nice post Amber. I hope you are feeling well and have a nice weekend.
Good post…much to think over!
Happy weekend to you as well. Did you enjoy your movie?
We just CANNOT put this
big
amazing
all-powerful
indescribable
miraculous
God in a box.
It’s part of how we reason as humans.
It’s just how we think.
But we can’t.
He just won’t fit.
Thankful for a God that can’t be squeezed into a box.
Mine or anyone else’s!
lol…I’ve always thought about getting a job at Gap just so my whole paycheck can go right back there
I’ve struggled with the same issues this last year. God has been working on my heart. My hubby was laid off
over a year ago. As a stay-at-home mom since my kids were born I would never have thought I would need to work until my kids were
18 + I mean cmon its a mans job to Always provide for his family. I did not ever think I would be one of those “working moms”
Here I am working full time from home and going to school full time. I have been forced outside of my comfort zone and it has totally changed my perspective and allowed me to take God out of a box. I am called to be my husbands help-mate in this life time. Do I like working, No, not at all..give me back the title of full time mom anytime. God certainly uses life circumstances to teach us so much about who He is and what He desires from us.
I hear you on the homeschooling thing..
hugs to you Amber! We might not know what tomorrow holds but we know who Holds tomorrow.
@totallycherished -
@DanishDoll -
“we cannot put God in a box.” “we are not made from a cookie cutter.” I hear this often among Christians, and I do believe I understand what they are saying. I agree God has made us unique in personality, likes and dislikes, and talents. But what about the Scriptures that tell us how a woman is to conduct herself? How she is to dress? And the example we’re given in Proverbs 31?
I hesitate to post publicly because I am in not any way trying to create arguments. Only genuinely looking for answers. I am not at liberty to share specifics, but feel there are not the women in my life to feel freedom enough to ask these things of.
okay.
i’m a little like you in that this has never really been an issue that i’ve thought a lot about.
i’m also a little on another side of the spectrum in that i’m okay with some of the things that i do (outward expressions of what i believe God is asking of me) and have never really identified firsthand with those who have been shamed by their being female.
i’m NOT saying that in anyway a ‘better-than-thou, i-have-it-all-together’ kind of way. (i think you know me better than that)
but, this post and the attached link have certainly stirred my thoughts and caused me to think about where i stand, what i believe, and most importantly, how to reach out and genuinely help those who have been negatively affected by the so called Biblical Womanhood movement.
i do not have the answers.
but, some of the things that stood out to me in the article were things like this:
‘And wherever the primary identify of being a disciple of Christ as He defined it under His own authority has been trampled, we find excesses on both sides. Nothing that Jesus said about being one of His followers will ever make sense apart from the foundational gospel message of sin, judgment, redemption and reconciliation. We can’t speak to the varying roles of men and women found in the Bible if we bypass the commonality we share in the gospel: we are made alike in the image of God; we equally share in rebellious sin and therefore in the judgment of a righteous God; and we equally receive unmerited favor from the justifying sacrifice of Jesus as our mediator. Once we are redeemed by our Savior, we are fully His–objects of mercy who are under His command and laboring together to advance His gospel agenda.’
and this:
‘The lives of individual female Christ-followers will never look exactly alike, so we must never reduce the message and definition of biblical womanhood to that of a role. Nor should we allow others to define this message as such, for being a woman made in the image of God and rescued from corrosive, indwelling sin by the atonement of Jesus is the preeminent definition of biblical womanhood.’
how to offer hope, healing and redemption to those in crisis over this idea baffles me.
but, i also makes me think that the bottom line, what it all really comes down to is: each of us are just sinners saved by Grace. and, only God can see the motives, the true motives of our hearts and He alone calls us to a life of being set apart, a life of service and a life of worship to Him.
how that looks for me is not the same as it looks for you.
but, when i realize that the lady on my right in the jeans and t-shirt is made in the Image of God the same as the lady on my left in a box covering and plain dress, it changes how i think, how i respond and how i love. it makes me realize that how we define our so called roles and how we express our freedom in Christ are a result of the very same thing: God’s redemptive work on the cross and His redeeming love and pardon of my sins.
okay.
this is a lot of words.
for me, anyhow.;)
and, maybe it’s all alot of bunny trailing.
but, hopefully it’s not too confusing.
or distracting from what you’re bringing out here.
cuz, i really like this article, and like i said, it’s made me think.
and, that, i really like.
hope your weekend is happy!
love,
~rb
Nothing to add except AMEN!
Thank you for the links. Both excellent!
me again…
the line i said about ‘other end of the spectrum and being ok with…’ i did NOT mean that you, or anyone else is coming across as not okay with… ‘dot,dot,dot.’
just to clarify. ;O)
love ya..
Glad you enjoyed the lost sock comic, I have always wondered where they go!
Hope you are enjoying your weekend….Mike
Just reread my comment. And this bothered me: “How can I be better” or even, “Will I ever be better then I am now??”
It might sound like I’m saying “how can I be better than THEM”….. pffft!
I meant better at homescooling (then I’ve been) Like I’m such a hyper competitive person, you know.
As evidenced by the *musicallytalentedsupersportplayinggreekspeakinglittlenewtestamentmemorizers* that surround me.
@Kay -
i’m not mae or gloria, and perhaps those ladies will add more of their thoughts… but i do understand what you’re saying. are there no absolutes in Scripture, no guidelines with all this stuff. and i believe there IS – the absolute & guideline being the HEART! which i know might seem like the canned/ ready answer, or the easy way out.. not at all. i don’t think there is, nor can be, anything canned, ready made, or easy about issues of the heart.
our ss class just completed a series on modesty that honestly, when we first started i kinda sat back and crossed my arms and thought, ‘here we go again…’ but it’s been so good and challenging for me. bottom line – to examine my motives and lay out my heart contents b/fore the Lord. and we talked/ and discussed some of the very scriptures i think you’re referring to~
i’m far from a theologian – - but here’s just some things i feel like God showed me over the course of this study. of course prov.31 is a “guideline” for us as wives to follow. not saying this is the only way it has to be~ but i think of prov. as the book of wisdom. and once again.. w/ prov 31 here is yet another WISE bit of council we might consider. i don’t think any of us will ever be THAT woman – after all.. we don’t all sew. *raises hand*
but it’s not going to hurt us to apply a few of these things to our lives…
a person in class pointed out that this chapter starts off talking about the HEART – her husbands heart trusting in her. which i just thought was an interesting observation!
and those other scriptures – again, sure they are wise guidelines for us to follow… which of us doesn’t want to be discreet. good. and love our children.?? but we cannot FORCE these things.. simply imitate them outwardly when they are not truly in our hearts! and as far as the verses on not letting it be the outward adorning, etc. personally, i don’t think it’s saying you are NOT to do those things, BUT when you DO.. that should not be the focus – -b/cause it goes on to say it should be the hidden man of the HEART!!!!
so even though i KNOW there are so many who want to tag specifics on what those verses actually mean or are telling us – - the “details” how we carry them out will look different on us all! and that’s okay~ the details of WHAT God wants you to do with a truth once presented to you is between you and HIM.. no one else! but of course, i feel ALL those scriptures emphasize and come back to the HEART! b/cause that’s where true transformation begins – the inside/out. not the other way around.
and YES! i do believe that when someone is genuinely seeking God and His desire for what&how they should wear.eat.act.educate their children.love their husbands.those around them.spend their money on, etc. HE WILL SHOW THEM!!
so.. those are my thoughts. which might not be totally accurate. not saying i have the monopoly on truth here. i’m a searcher just like you.
feel free to chat more if you want~ maybe we could do it here hutchbox.amber@gmail.com
@DanishDoll -
“I just wish it had not taken me so many years to stop comparing myself to others, and just appreciate ME!”
amen!!
@totallycherished -
“Thankful for a God that can’t be squeezed into a box.
Mine or anyone else’s!”
another amen!!
@foreveranoatneygirl -
i didn’t take it that way at all~ i am AMAZED by your heart of unconditional acceptance. knowing that, as you said – “i’m also a little on another side of the spectrum in that i’m okay with some of the things that i do (outward expressions of what i believe God is asking of me)..” to me, you’re a true example of doing something for GOD, not man! i’ve learned from you sweet friend~ truly.
@bakersdozen2 -
haha! i love YOU.
and thanks for what you shared on all that stuff. i never knew that was a struggle for you too~ to me you ARE the perfect homeschool mom!
but i think that’s because i’ve witnessed firsthand that your older kids have turned out MORE than okay. AND you have this incredible relationship with them that i’ve rarely seen in other homes to boot!!!
interesting. I loved the thought, “Why the opposite sex?” Never thought of it that way before.
I’m like you–never really wanted to work outside the home since we had children. I have wished for more intellectual stimulation (though the internet has satisfied that need quite nicely) but certainly not for more work!
But honestly, I don’t see how so many women manage to do so much without sacrificing the really important things. I think that’s one problem with our very busy society…we feel obligated to everything that is good, when actually we simply cannot do all of it well.
been wanting to get back here…
so much to think about.
and now that I’ve read the comments. still thinking.
great post Amber. love ya lots.
Oh, Amber. What a can of worms! This blog post sent me to my journal, and I wrote a tome. In fact, my journal has a lot of musings on this subject, or related subjects, already.
I wasn’t going to post here at all, because I struggle with this issue, this is my on-going battle. But I will post part of what I did write. And incidentally, my journal is written to God, so you’ll see me addressing Him throughout:
We are not called to be good “Christian women”. We are to be good Christians. Men’s Christianity is not predicated on their gender, as women’s is. There is a move afoot to do “Identity Christianity”, just like Identity Politics. There are bibles for African-Americans, African-American Women, Teens, Girls, Boys, Pentecostals, ad infinitum. And the conservative church rightly says that this is wrong. It’s divisive. It gets us thinking about ME: MY identity, MY need for solace in MY trial, MY desire for guidance as I live MY life as a woman/teen/Lutheran, whatever.
In the same way, for writers or teachers to tell women what a Christan woman must be like is to divide women from the body. We are one body, says the Bible.
We all have one purpose here on the earth, whether we are Christian men or Christian women or Christian Engineers or Christian Pentacostals or Christian lizards. If we are Christian, we have one job on two fronts: we are ambassadors for Christ, to the unsaved for reconciliation, and to the saved for building up.
And none of us, whether Christian men or Christian women or Christian ministers, none of us can be an ambassador on our own. We cannot read the Bible, determine what to do based on the “principles”, and go do it. The ranks of the Pastorate and Missionary workers are replete with burnout because of this belief.
And the ranks of the rest of us are filled with washouts. Reference all the ATI folks whose kids never embraced You, but ran away to the lusts of the world because they didn’t have the self-discipline to be self-disciplined, the attentiveness to be attentive, or enough of the other 49 character traits to not hate themselves when they found themselves lacking in every wisdom search, every lesson, every day. They ran away to prevent the cognitive dissonance that us older folks are able to live with. We call it being a hypocrite. The Bible calls it being double minded. We walk with our necklines up to here and our hemlines down to there, but hate and berate and belittle and wrangle for our way. But we consider ourselves good Christians because of our “standards”. And our kids have to choose whether they will enter into this façade for the sake of acceptance into our (and their) social group, or if they will find a different social group (outside the church) who will accept them as the flawed folks they are and still be able to find something good to say about them.
No, not one of us can do this life, not one of us can be such an ambassador unless we are leaning, abiding, going and going and going to You, Lord, for power and direction and insight and wisdom and stamina and a loving heart and so on and on.
And that is all of us. Male or female, Jew or Gentile, Barbarian or Scythian, bond or free.
And that gives us our value as women. It is the same in the kingdom as the value of anyone else.
All that being said, though, Lord, You know how much I struggle with the bondage that others put on me, wanting to throw it off, but knowing that “we are called to peace.” You long ago asked me if I was going to get into a wrestling or shouting match in the hallway of the church to teach what I saw as truth about this matter in the face of others who used “standards” or “principles” to tell me what they had decided that You wanted from me.
And I have seen other women, women who have received the same yoke but like me, didn’t have the naturally compliant personality (the ones who as newborns slept through the night in two weeks, cooed and didn’t cry when wet, etc., showing it to be personality, and not training), I have seen other women throw off the yoke of “the principles” and begin to decide for themselves what they would wear/see/do/say.
But they become like the unsaved. For the unsaved don’t ask You, and the saved-but-deciding-for-myself don’t ask You. I think of the young mother’s Sunday School recently, and the comments that because they “liked” something they saw in the store, and they didn’t “think” there was anything wrong with it, then they should get to buy it. But nowhere did they mention that they prayed and asked You while they were in the store looking at the coveted item.
But the teaching could so easily come out as, “Think about what men will think when they see you in this.” And THAT isn’t asking You either.
Is the only way to decide what is right or wrong to ask “What would Bill do?” Or, “what should I do?” Or “what will men think?” Or “what will the church think?” No wonder our young people think the best choice is to decide for themselves. That’s waaay better than always being subject to the whim of someone else. Shall we wear a burqa because some guy might be a pervert, and we can’t be sure who we’re “defrauding”?
And that’s why young folks leave the church and embrace the world, or go find a church that has enough of the world in it to let them have it their way. Because they are not taught to ask You, God. They are not taught how to be in relationship with You. They are taught to look at the book You wrote, and figure out what You want based on that, or listen to some “expert” who will tell them what You want. And there is an expert for every idea out there, so that we can always get someone to agree with us about what You “really” meant in this or that passage of Your book. But they are not taught to ask the Author, and wait for a reply. And to wait on You, and not act until they have that reply.
Lord, You know my flesh gets in there too, with the best of them, with the rest of them. There are days that I want to be heard, to be valued for my contribution to the kingdom, the contribution I have to give, not the contribution I’m “permitted” to give by those who think it’s their job to give others “permission”. I know that sometimes the contribution I have to give is MY contribution, not Yours, and You just want me to keep that little gem to myself. For if it’s not from You, it doesn’t build up anyway. No power. But I know that I have contributions to give that are given to me by You, and that You want me to share them for the building up.
And my personal resentment from 36 years of “independent” ignorance of all truth gets mixed up with my legitimate indignation from not being able to contribute from the “You” taught part of me. [I was 36 y/o when I got saved.]
And I don’t know how much of my self-doubt is legitimate (“the arm of flesh will fail you, ye dare not trust your own” is so true), and how much of my self-doubt is devil-ignited from the last 18 years of conservative teaching on how women are “deceived”, from 18 years of hearing intelligence in women scoffed at as some sort of quasi-feminism.
I love this from Dorothy L. Sayers:
“Perhaps it is no wonder that the women were first at the Cradle and last at the Cross. They had never known a man like this Man–there never has been such another. A prophet and a teacher who never nagged at them, never flattered or coaxed or patronised; who never made arch jokes about them, never treated them either as “The women, God help us!” or “The ladies, God bless them!”; who rebuked without querulousness and praised without condescension; who took their questions and arguments seriously; who never mapped out their sphere for them, never urged them to be feminine or jeered at them for being female; who had no axe to grind and no uneasy male dignity to defend; who took them as he found them and was completely unself-conscious. There is no act, no sermon, no parable in the whole Gospel that borrows its pungency from female perversity; nobody could possibly guess from the words and deeds of Jesus that there was anything “funny” about woman’s nature.”
I, too, was made, or remade, in Your image. An image of inquisitiveness, creativity, longing for righteousness. Thank You for taking my questions and arguments seriously. And I would be HAPPY to have You map out my sphere for me, were I to know that it was You only, and not You-plus-my-guilt-or-pride, or You-plus-someone-else’s-guilt-or-pride. Thank You for thinking I am feminine enough, and for not jeering at my femaleness. I had two children and that was enough for You. I am a little loud and You still like being around me. I talk and You listen with interest, not mere duty, or absentmindedly, or to rebut, or with condescension. I am a little lazy but You don’t bring that to my attention all the time. No, You are changing me, loving me, growing me, giving me hope for what I am becoming.
Love you, Amber. I suppose it’s good to talk about all this. I think us old fuddy-duddies worry that when these things get talked about, you younger ones, without the settledness that happens with age, will race off headlong to throw off the yoke of bondage (as legalism is called by Paul in Galatians), and throw off everything else with it. It’s impossible to know what is meat to be swallowed and what is bones to be spit out without asking the only One who has a clue: Christ Himself. But we must ask believing He intends to answer, nothing doubting, for let not that man think he shall receive anything of God. We get our answers when we believe what He says about Himself: He is a prayer answering God. We receive not because we ask not. We must ask with expectation of getting an answer, and patience to not act until we receive it.
About everything.
@MollyDraga -
thank you friend. i know this was very personal for you. so appreciate your heart. love you.
I think something the body of Christ has “picked up” from our culture is comparing. And it sure is hurtful and causes us to stumble and fall. We can never measure up to “the perfect Godly woman” or to someone else who can do things we can’t. And it is not always someone else judging, but often ourselves. Learning to follow Christ’s lead, and learning what He would have us do…that can take a lifetime. But yes, in the meantime we are leading our families and being wives, so we do have to continue to try. Heart issues do seem to be a good place to start. If we are just acting out a role, or having our kids act out a role, it doesn’t reach the heart…and will unravel. So at the core of it all is walking with Christ, and teaching my children about Him. When you are following His ways,then you have to check in with Him. Then, everyone’s walk will be on the same path, but we all walk, skip, jump, and crawl a bit differently. I do think God set up a family to work a certain way, but how that works out can look a bit differently with families and circumstances.